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		<title>by: Mikael Vikström</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/scarab/#comment-419</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:56:35 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Some may see it as cheating. I see it as using the resources at hand. ;)

PS. Yay! Brownie! DS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Some may see it as cheating. I see it as using the resources at hand. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>PS. Yay! Brownie! DS.
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/05/chronotype-discrimination/#comment-418</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:46:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Harald - Yeah, I just never get around to joining...

efrique - Same here, although I have to admit that I don't do well staying up all night either. I have a window between midnight and 3am when it's ok for me to go to bed, if I stay up later than that several days in a row I start feeling really bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Harald - Yeah, I just never get around to joining&#8230;</p>
	<p>efrique - Same here, although I have to admit that I don&#8217;t do well staying up all night either. I have a window between midnight and 3am when it&#8217;s ok for me to go to bed, if I stay up later than that several days in a row I start feeling really bad!
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		<title>by: efrique</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/05/chronotype-discrimination/#comment-417</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:51:47 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm defintely on a late schedule myself; I don't understand early risers at all. If I'm up at 5 am it's probably because I haven't gotten to bed yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m defintely on a late schedule myself; I don&#8217;t understand early risers at all. If I&#8217;m up at 5 am it&#8217;s probably because I haven&#8217;t gotten to bed yet&#8230;
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		<title>by: Harald Cederlund</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/05/chronotype-discrimination/#comment-416</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:08:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>At least we have a &lt;a&gt;B-society&lt;/a&gt; - sounds like it should be something for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>At least we have a <a>B-society</a> - sounds like it should be something for you!
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/scarab/#comment-415</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:59:07 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/scarab/#comment-415</guid>
					<description>Mikael; Well, ok, you get ONE brownie point for that, but you did cheat. :P And at least that trilogy (beginning with Revelation Space) is very good, at least if you like extremely immersive but also very lengthy scifi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mikael; Well, ok, you get ONE brownie point for that, but you did cheat. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  And at least that trilogy (beginning with Revelation Space) is very good, at least if you like extremely immersive but also very lengthy scifi.
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		<title>by: Mikael Vikström</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/scarab/#comment-414</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:52:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/scarab/#comment-414</guid>
					<description>I'll take a stab at Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. Beware the power of Google...

Maybe I should read the books as well if they're that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ll take a stab at Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. Beware the power of Google&#8230;</p>
	<p>Maybe I should read the books as well if they&#8217;re that good.
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/113/#comment-413</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:19:31 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Patrik, Thanks! It doesn't surprise me that honey has been such a significant economic factor. Humans are wired to &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; sweet stuff and honey is as sweet a natural product as you can get. It's also quite useful as a disinfectant - although &quot;boiling the comb&quot; would have destroyed this quality! Hopefully not all beekeepers used that technique...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Patrik, Thanks! It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that honey has been such a significant economic factor. Humans are wired to <i>love</i> sweet stuff and honey is as sweet a natural product as you can get. It&#8217;s also quite useful as a disinfectant - although &#8220;boiling the comb&#8221; would have destroyed this quality! Hopefully not all beekeepers used that technique&#8230;
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/03/on-arrogance-and-the-nature-of-reality/#comment-412</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:15:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/03/on-arrogance-and-the-nature-of-reality/#comment-412</guid>
					<description>Patrik, No worries. As I said, I consider it a fairly normal part of this kind of debate and it rarely gets to me. After all we both believe we are right and the other is wrong! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Patrik, No worries. As I said, I consider it a fairly normal part of this kind of debate and it rarely gets to me. After all we both believe we are right and the other is wrong! <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: PatrikP</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/113/#comment-411</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:58:49 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/04/113/#comment-411</guid>
					<description>Interesting, it sheds light on the agricultural economy of the time. Some further thoughts on ancient beekeeping from &quot;Anchor Bible Dictionary&quot;:

&quot;BEES. Although bees had been raised in Egypt from as early as the Old Kingdom (Kuény 1950), there is no evidence for this practice in ancient Palestine until the Hellenistic period (Neufeld 1978, which discusses earlier literature). Despite this lack of evidence, they may well have been raised. The one thing we know for sure is that the honey of wild bees was collected (cf. 1 Sam 14:25–28). The richest source of wild honey was the forest, but it could also be gathered from hives in the cliffs (Deut 32:13; Ps 81:17). The yield from honey hunting is surprisingly large. A single hive may produce as much as 50 kg (110 lb) of honey. Honey eaten in the comb may offer certain side benefits. It is not uncommon for the larvae to be eaten with the comb (cf. R. Bailey 1989: 685), and larvae are an excellent source of protein.

Since bees were raised in Egypt, there was little need there to raid wild hives. The typical Egyptian beekeeping installation consisted of cylindrical ceramic tubes a meter or so in length laid horizontally one upon the other. These tubes were modeled after the hollow tree trunks or limbs in which one might encounter bees in the wild. When the honeycombs had been filled, honey could easily have been extracted from the end of the tube with a hook. This entire technology is precisely paralleled among modern Palestinian peasants (see discussion in Neufeld 1978).

In Mesopotamia, the first evidence for beekeeping comes from the stele of Shamash-resh-usur (early 8th century B.C.E.), who boasts that he had “brought down from the mountain of Habha people, the flies which collect honey, which none of my predecessors had ever known or brought down … and located them in the gardens of the town GN. (There) they might now collect honey and wax. I (even) knew how to separate honey (from) wax by boiling (the comb) and (my) gardeners know it too” (Weissbach 1903: 11 col. iv.13–16; v.1–6). In view of the absence of any mention of honey hunting or beekeeping in texts prior to this time, Shamash-resh-usur´s claim is credible.&quot;

Another interesting - and earlier - text in relation to ancient beekeeping is a collection of old Hittite laws. Extraction from an article in &quot;Context of Scripture&quot;: &quot;The Hittite laws were first written down in the Old Kingdom (ca. 1650–1500 BCE). They are therefore later than the Sumerian law collections of Ur-Nammu and Lipit-Ishtar and the Akkadian laws of Eshnunna and Hammurabi, but earlier than the Middle Assyrian laws and the laws of the Hebrew Bible.&quot;

And one part of the law-text goes:
&quot;[If] anyone [steals bees] in a swarm, [formerly] they paid [... shekels of silver], but now he shall pay 5 shekels of silver. He shall look to his house for it. [If] anyone steals [2] or 3 beehives, formerly (the offender) would have been exposed to bee-sting. But now he shall pay 6 shekels of silver. If anyone steals a beehive, if there are no bees in the hive, he shall pay 3 shekels of silver.&quot;

So, beekeeping was apparently an economical factor significant enough to be both exposed to crime and subsequent legislation a very early time, at least in the Hittite empire of 1650-1500 BCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting, it sheds light on the agricultural economy of the time. Some further thoughts on ancient beekeeping from &#8220;Anchor Bible Dictionary&#8221;:</p>
	<p>&#8220;BEES. Although bees had been raised in Egypt from as early as the Old Kingdom (Kuény 1950), there is no evidence for this practice in ancient Palestine until the Hellenistic period (Neufeld 1978, which discusses earlier literature). Despite this lack of evidence, they may well have been raised. The one thing we know for sure is that the honey of wild bees was collected (cf. 1 Sam 14:25–28). The richest source of wild honey was the forest, but it could also be gathered from hives in the cliffs (Deut 32:13; Ps 81:17). The yield from honey hunting is surprisingly large. A single hive may produce as much as 50 kg (110 lb) of honey. Honey eaten in the comb may offer certain side benefits. It is not uncommon for the larvae to be eaten with the comb (cf. R. Bailey 1989: 685), and larvae are an excellent source of protein.</p>
	<p>Since bees were raised in Egypt, there was little need there to raid wild hives. The typical Egyptian beekeeping installation consisted of cylindrical ceramic tubes a meter or so in length laid horizontally one upon the other. These tubes were modeled after the hollow tree trunks or limbs in which one might encounter bees in the wild. When the honeycombs had been filled, honey could easily have been extracted from the end of the tube with a hook. This entire technology is precisely paralleled among modern Palestinian peasants (see discussion in Neufeld 1978).</p>
	<p>In Mesopotamia, the first evidence for beekeeping comes from the stele of Shamash-resh-usur (early 8th century B.C.E.), who boasts that he had “brought down from the mountain of Habha people, the flies which collect honey, which none of my predecessors had ever known or brought down … and located them in the gardens of the town GN. (There) they might now collect honey and wax. I (even) knew how to separate honey (from) wax by boiling (the comb) and (my) gardeners know it too” (Weissbach 1903: 11 col. iv.13–16; v.1–6). In view of the absence of any mention of honey hunting or beekeeping in texts prior to this time, Shamash-resh-usur´s claim is credible.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Another interesting - and earlier - text in relation to ancient beekeeping is a collection of old Hittite laws. Extraction from an article in &#8220;Context of Scripture&#8221;: &#8220;The Hittite laws were first written down in the Old Kingdom (ca. 1650–1500 BCE). They are therefore later than the Sumerian law collections of Ur-Nammu and Lipit-Ishtar and the Akkadian laws of Eshnunna and Hammurabi, but earlier than the Middle Assyrian laws and the laws of the Hebrew Bible.&#8221;</p>
	<p>And one part of the law-text goes:<br />
&#8220;[If] anyone [steals bees] in a swarm, [formerly] they paid [&#8230; shekels of silver], but now he shall pay 5 shekels of silver. He shall look to his house for it. [If] anyone steals [2] or 3 beehives, formerly (the offender) would have been exposed to bee-sting. But now he shall pay 6 shekels of silver. If anyone steals a beehive, if there are no bees in the hive, he shall pay 3 shekels of silver.&#8221;</p>
	<p>So, beekeeping was apparently an economical factor significant enough to be both exposed to crime and subsequent legislation a very early time, at least in the Hittite empire of 1650-1500 BCE.
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		<title>by: PatrikP</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/03/on-arrogance-and-the-nature-of-reality/#comment-410</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:18:56 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to write such a long response. I must admit that I had forgotten about it. I also must admit that I belive my initial comment was a bit too harsh, which I now realise when I have read it again after having forgotten about it. Also, you are right about the arrogance-accusation, it swings both ways. So, my sincere apology for the harsh words and rough expressions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to write such a long response. I must admit that I had forgotten about it. I also must admit that I belive my initial comment was a bit too harsh, which I now realise when I have read it again after having forgotten about it. Also, you are right about the arrogance-accusation, it swings both ways. So, my sincere apology for the harsh words and rough expressions.
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