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	<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/</link>
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		<title>by: Hydraulic Fittings</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-1121</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There is obviously a lot to know about this. I think you made some good points in Features also. 
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-481</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:38:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Bjorn, that's ok, we don't mind exporting the occasional word like ombudsman and smörgåsbord so why not names! ;)

I hear ya on the pain avoidance. I have only gotten stung thrice over my career as a beekeeper and that was really three times too many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bjorn, that&#8217;s ok, we don&#8217;t mind exporting the occasional word like ombudsman and smörgåsbord so why not names! <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>I hear ya on the pain avoidance. I have only gotten stung thrice over my career as a beekeeper and that was really three times too many.
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		<title>by: Bjorn Watland</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-480</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:29:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>And I'm not even Swedish.  My mother liked the name from a student exchange program she went to in high school to Sweden.

I think my fear is more about pain avoidance, and also about causing unnecessary suffering for bees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And I&#8217;m not even Swedish.  My mother liked the name from a student exchange program she went to in high school to Sweden.</p>
	<p>I think my fear is more about pain avoidance, and also about causing unnecessary suffering for bees.
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-479</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:10:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>That's cool. I have never encountered anyone whose name was actually Bjorn. Björn is to me a very Swedish name and removing the umlaut completely changes both the sound and meaning...

Bees can be &lt;a href=&quot;http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2007/09/01/death-and-bees/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dangerous&lt;/a&gt;, so there's nothing particularly irrational about being afraid of them. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That&#8217;s cool. I have never encountered anyone whose name was actually Bjorn. Björn is to me a very Swedish name and removing the umlaut completely changes both the sound and meaning&#8230;</p>
	<p>Bees can be <a href="http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2007/09/01/death-and-bees/" rel="nofollow">dangerous</a>, so there&#8217;s nothing particularly irrational about being afraid of them. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: Bjorn Watland</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-478</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:55:17 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>No umlaut.  And, I have an irrational fear of bees.</description>
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-476</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:43:33 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-476</guid>
					<description>Bjorn; Is this a trick question? Because you know what happens. :) I'm not entirely certain what you're getting at... I think the mormon in question was being incredibly naive about the kind of reception she could expect from a very skeptical crowd, and her reaction was childish. (Btw, just out of curiousity, is your name really Bjorn, not Björn?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Bjorn; Is this a trick question? Because you know what happens. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m not entirely certain what you&#8217;re getting at&#8230; I think the mormon in question was being incredibly naive about the kind of reception she could expect from a very skeptical crowd, and her reaction was childish. (Btw, just out of curiousity, is your name really Bjorn, not Björn?)
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		<title>by: Bjorn Watland</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-473</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:27:35 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-473</guid>
					<description>What happens if a guest blogger who happens to be Mormon writes on an atheist blog, and answers questions about her religions theology, and the atheists say, well, that's dumb.  Then the guest blogger says , &quot;Nuh-uh!  You don't know me!&quot; then takes the original post down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What happens if a guest blogger who happens to be Mormon writes on an atheist blog, and answers questions about her religions theology, and the atheists say, well, that&#8217;s dumb.  Then the guest blogger says , &#8220;Nuh-uh!  You don&#8217;t know me!&#8221; then takes the original post down?
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-462</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:29:47 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Glynn, Tolerant of what? I don't do &quot;tolerance&quot;. I also don't think there's ever an excuse for being a dickhead and I really wish there was something that could be done about people acting like they do on the internet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Glynn, Tolerant of what? I don&#8217;t do &#8220;tolerance&#8221;. I also don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s ever an excuse for being a dickhead and I really wish there was something that could be done about people acting like they do on the internet&#8230;
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		<title>by: Glynn</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-460</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:14:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I always find it helpful - if a little upsetting - to remember that many of the people on &quot;your side&quot; (in whatever debate) are dickheads too, in fact, a similar number of people are probably dickheads on either side. It doesn't make me happier but it does make me more tolerant. Sometimes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I always find it helpful - if a little upsetting - to remember that many of the people on &#8220;your side&#8221; (in whatever debate) are dickheads too, in fact, a similar number of people are probably dickheads on either side. It doesn&#8217;t make me happier but it does make me more tolerant. Sometimes&#8230;
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-458</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:17:50 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/09/17/leave-the-nutters-alone-but-only-when-theyre-home/#comment-458</guid>
					<description>Mee, Thanks for your comment! I was hoping someone would bring up the point about blogs being essentially public places. :) I think there's something to be said for both sides here though.

Let's try a different metaphor, to begin with: A fair or convention of some kind. Could be about anything. If there's a stall marketing something you strongly disagree with, do you walk up to the people standing there telling them they have their heads up their asses? Would you go up to them and talk to them &lt;i&gt;at all&lt;/i&gt;? Usually, you'd just move on to something more interesting, rather than hanging around people you don't like trying to sell you something you think is bunk. You'd simply not expose yourself to what you think is pure stupidity. On the internet on the other hand, a lot of people seem to take &lt;i&gt;pleasure&lt;/i&gt; in dredging up stuff they think is idiotic and then complaining about it.

While I agree that blogs are more or less open arenas by definition, there is still the point to be made that people get a lot more argumentative and also &lt;i&gt;rude&lt;/i&gt; when protected by the anonymity of internet interactions. Personally I take internet debates very seriously and always see my opponents as real people but this doesn't seem to apply to everyone.

Still, this wasn't supposed to be about rudeness but simply the point that when in real life, most people will simply walk away from topics and people that offend them - or switch channel or read a different newspaper article - on the internet, we suddenly turn confrontative. It's one thing to enter into a dialogue, quite another to simply drop a one-time comment on someone's blog telling them they're an idiot. It doesn't matter if you're right or not: That's not feedback, that's just trolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Mee, Thanks for your comment! I was hoping someone would bring up the point about blogs being essentially public places. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think there&#8217;s something to be said for both sides here though.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s try a different metaphor, to begin with: A fair or convention of some kind. Could be about anything. If there&#8217;s a stall marketing something you strongly disagree with, do you walk up to the people standing there telling them they have their heads up their asses? Would you go up to them and talk to them <i>at all</i>? Usually, you&#8217;d just move on to something more interesting, rather than hanging around people you don&#8217;t like trying to sell you something you think is bunk. You&#8217;d simply not expose yourself to what you think is pure stupidity. On the internet on the other hand, a lot of people seem to take <i>pleasure</i> in dredging up stuff they think is idiotic and then complaining about it.</p>
	<p>While I agree that blogs are more or less open arenas by definition, there is still the point to be made that people get a lot more argumentative and also <i>rude</i> when protected by the anonymity of internet interactions. Personally I take internet debates very seriously and always see my opponents as real people but this doesn&#8217;t seem to apply to everyone.</p>
	<p>Still, this wasn&#8217;t supposed to be about rudeness but simply the point that when in real life, most people will simply walk away from topics and people that offend them - or switch channel or read a different newspaper article - on the internet, we suddenly turn confrontative. It&#8217;s one thing to enter into a dialogue, quite another to simply drop a one-time comment on someone&#8217;s blog telling them they&#8217;re an idiot. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you&#8217;re right or not: That&#8217;s not feedback, that&#8217;s just trolling.
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