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		<title>by: Solid State Relay</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-1145</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For this matter, once I discussed with one of my friends, not only about the content you talked about, but also to how to improve and develop, but no results. So I am deeply moved by what you said today. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For this matter, once I discussed with one of my friends, not only about the content you talked about, but also to how to improve and develop, but no results. So I am deeply moved by what you said today.
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		<title>by: Kovarik</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-394</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:17:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I have no problem with the sentence as is, fish obviously don't know how to play to their audience- as we do...   One half billion years ago there were fish, and I'm still waiting for ONE of them to have a blog...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have no problem with the sentence as is, fish obviously don&#8217;t know how to play to their audience- as we do&#8230;   One half billion years ago there were fish, and I&#8217;m still waiting for ONE of them to have a blog&#8230;
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		<title>by: Daniel Ocampo</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-383</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:35:06 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Could you perhaps tell us in what context that statement appeared? Could you transcribe the entire paragraph? It does undoubtedly sound very strange. I would think twice before using 'of course' or 'obviously'... and I would hesitate even more to use them both in one sentence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Could you perhaps tell us in what context that statement appeared? Could you transcribe the entire paragraph? It does undoubtedly sound very strange. I would think twice before using &#8216;of course&#8217; or &#8216;obviously&#8217;&#8230; and I would hesitate even more to use them both in one sentence.
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		<title>by: Glynn</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-375</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:01:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>In actual time yes, but if there are more generations there are more opportunities for selection to work, no?

To be honest, I have no idea how you would even measure the &quot;complexity&quot; of an organism. Corn has more genes than we do, but most people would say that humans are more complex than corn, perhaps objectively on the grounds that we have a wider variety of tissue types. Do we use our genes more efficiently (multiple versions through alternate splicing etc) or is this just another self-centred fallacy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In actual time yes, but if there are more generations there are more opportunities for selection to work, no?</p>
	<p>To be honest, I have no idea how you would even measure the &#8220;complexity&#8221; of an organism. Corn has more genes than we do, but most people would say that humans are more complex than corn, perhaps objectively on the grounds that we have a wider variety of tissue types. Do we use our genes more efficiently (multiple versions through alternate splicing etc) or is this just another self-centred fallacy?
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		<title>by: efrique</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-369</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:38:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Because we're all angsty and gothy and emo?</description>
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-368</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:53:35 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Glynn, I do get that anthropocentrism explains why the authors wrote what they did, but that doesn't exactly answer the question. :P

If you measure in actual time, we're all equally &quot;evolved&quot;, bacteria, fish and people alike. And humans probably exhibit a lot more &lt;em&gt;derived&lt;/em&gt; traits than bacteria. Question is if we exhibit more derived traits than fish? Although a derived trait obviously doesn't have to be a more complex trait, the appendix is a derived trait after all and it's less complex than its more functional cousins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Glynn, I do get that anthropocentrism explains why the authors wrote what they did, but that doesn&#8217;t exactly answer the question. <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>If you measure in actual time, we&#8217;re all equally &#8220;evolved&#8221;, bacteria, fish and people alike. And humans probably exhibit a lot more <em>derived</em> traits than bacteria. Question is if we exhibit more derived traits than fish? Although a derived trait obviously doesn&#8217;t have to be a more complex trait, the appendix is a derived trait after all and it&#8217;s less complex than its more functional cousins.
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		<title>by: Glynn</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-367</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:23:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Because we're an arrogant, self-centred species who assume we're at the top of everything? :) I wouldn't blame us for that. If the fish were catching us in huge nets they'd probably assume they were more complex too.

Here's a thought: since a bacterial generation time is much less than a human's (as low as 20 minutes in the extreme cases) bacteria are actually far more evolved than we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Because we&#8217;re an arrogant, self-centred species who assume we&#8217;re at the top of everything? <img src='http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I wouldn&#8217;t blame us for that. If the fish were catching us in huge nets they&#8217;d probably assume they were more complex too.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s a thought: since a bacterial generation time is much less than a human&#8217;s (as low as 20 minutes in the extreme cases) bacteria are actually far more evolved than we are.
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		<title>by: Felicia Gilljam</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-366</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:08:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Carrie, Good start. But then what of the fish that use an ingenious system of countercurrent heat exchange to raise their body temperature to several degrees above that of the sea, such as tuna? Isn't that rather a complex circulatory system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Carrie, Good start. But then what of the fish that use an ingenious system of countercurrent heat exchange to raise their body temperature to several degrees above that of the sea, such as tuna? Isn&#8217;t that rather a complex circulatory system?
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		<title>by: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://lifebeforedeath.blogsome.com/2008/04/17/complexity/#comment-364</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:22:57 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The heart!  Theirs only has two chambers and ours has four!  Right?  I think?  Gosh, it's been a long time since high school biology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The heart!  Theirs only has two chambers and ours has four!  Right?  I think?  Gosh, it&#8217;s been a long time since high school biology.
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